BBC NEWS | Wales | Parents fight for 'right to life'

Essentially the doctors and the NHS are arguing that they have the right to decide on the life of this Child and the parents are arguing that it is there right as parents. Personally I believe

1. That when no extreme measures are taken that there is a responsibility to preserve life, a vent is not extreme in most instances.

2. The parents are always the final arbiter unless they are clearly negligent, clearly in this case the parents are not.

3. In any choice between life and death you must side with Life.

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Parents fight for ‘right to life’

Amber Hartland, from Cwmbran, Torfaen, has Infantile Tay-Sachs, an incurable brain condition.

A couple say they face a legal battle with a hospital to keep alive their six-year-old daughter in future.

Amber Hartland, from Cwmbran, Torfaen, has an incurable brain disorder and needs intensive care treatment in Cardiff when she gets chest infections.

Her parents say doctors told them their daughter, who is on a ventilator, was at the end of her life and a judge will have to decide on her future care.

[From BBC NEWS | Wales | Parents fight for ‘right to life’]

A life of abuse, rape and murder

Angus Robertson Sinclair, the man at the centre of the collapsed World's End murders case, has a string of convictions.
His first brush with the law was at the age of 13 when he stole an offertory box from a Glasgow church.
The 12 months' probation he received for that petty crime, committed in 1959, did not, however, jolt him into a life of good behaviour.
Later that year, the youngest son of Angus and Mary Sinclair appeared at Glasgow Sheriff Court on a housebreaking charge, for which he was later admonished.
However, it was in 1961 that Sinclair's life of crime took a sinister new twist when he was found guilty of lewd and libidinous practices against an eight-year-old girl.
For that offence he was given three years' probation.
It was seven months into that probationary period that he murdered for the first time.
Catherine Reehill was just eight when Sinclair sexually assaulted and strangled her in his family home.

He threw her body down a stairwell and told the little girl's mother that the death had been a terrible accident.

After being questioned by detectives the then 16-year-old Sinclair confessed to culpable homicide and was sentenced to 10 years in jail.
Pointedly, the judge Lord Mackintosh described Sinclair as "callous, cunning and wicked" and said that the perpetrator was so obsessed with sex that he was capable of taking a life to satisfy his lust.
There was nothing in Sinclair's unremarkable upbringing which might have hinted at what he would become.
He was brought up in the St George's Cross area of Glasgow and attended Lovell Street Primary, followed by St George's Junior Secondary School.
While in Edinburgh's Saughton Prison serving his sentence for Catherine's murder, he trained as a painter and decorator.
In 1970 he married trainee nurse Sarah McCulloch in Edinburgh and two years later they had a son Gary whom they brought up in Glasgow.

Throat cut
To all who knew him, Sinclair was apparently living a stable family life between 1970 and 1979.
However, the convicted killer was never too far from being on the wrong side of the law. In 1980 he had a short spell in prison for illegally possessing a .22 calibre revolver and ammunition.
Further police investigations found he had committed a string of indecent assaults and rapes against boys and girls aged between eight and 11.
His method was predatory - waiting in flats and closes before grabbing his victims at knifepoint.
In 1982 he pleaded guilty to 11 of 13 charges and was sentenced to life in prison.

SINCLAIR'S CONVICTIONS
1959 - stole an offertory box from a Glasgow church
1959 - housebreaking charge
1961 - committed lewd and libidinous practices on an eight-year-old girl
1961 - convicted of murdering Catherine Reehill, aged eight
1980 - illegal possession of a .22 calibre revolver
1982 - pleaded guilty to 11 charges of rape and assault on children aged eight to 11
2001 - convicted of the 1978 murder of Mary Gallagher, aged 17

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You have to wonder how many lives were effected by letting a person out who raped and murdered a little girl after athe judge described him as

Pointedly, the judge Lord Mackintosh described Sinclair as "callous, cunning and
wicked" and said that the perpetrator was so obsessed with sex that he was
capable of taking a life to satisfy his lust.

While he might be a model prisoner, he should stay as a resident, and not have any possibility of builiding on his record.

Couple jailed over baby torture

A couple have been jailed for nine years for abusing a 17-month-old boy who was sliced with a knife and burned with cigarettes.


Sumairia Parveen abused stepson Tahla Ikram before his death in September 2006, Southwark Crown Court heard

Shop manager jailed for baby porn

The judge had considered treating Boswell as a dangerous offenderA bookshop manager who distributed pornographic images of babies, on his computer has been jailed for two-and-a-half years

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A bookshop manager who distributed pornographic images of babies, on his computer has been jailed for two-and-a-half years.
Mold Crown Court heard that police found up to 4,000 images on Glen Boswell's computer at his shop flat in Llanidloes, Powys.
Judge Philip Hughes said he had a" perverted sexual appetite".
Boswell, 50, now living in Surrey, admitted 22 charges of downloading, possessing and distributing child porn.
Some of the worst categories of child porn were found by police who raided Boswell's flat after a tip off from the Child Exploitation and Online Protection Agency, the court heard.
Andrew Jebb, prosecuting, said Boswell had told police that providing the children appeared to be enjoying what was happening, then it was all right by him.
Your offending shows a dark, sinister and rather worrying side to your personality,
Judge Philip Hughes
But Mr Jebb said it was clear that some of the children were particularly distressed.
One video showed a baby suffering serious sexual assault by an adult man and another was handcuffed while sex acts took place.
Judge Hughes told Boswell that the case was aggravated by the fact the offences had continued for four years, the number of images involved and that many were distributed to others.
"As far as the children were concerned, you did not yourself directly abuse them but the very fact of what you were doing was in itself an abuse of these children," he told him.
"You have a depraved and perverted sexual appetite.
"Your offending shows a dark, sinister and rather worrying side to your personality."

More pornography
He said he had considered treating Boswell as a dangerous offender, but decided against it after a probation sexual assessment showed that his risk of re-offending was "low".
As well as direct distribution, the court heard Boswell used a file share system allowing others to automatically download his images.
'Abhorrent and horrific'
He had also written fantasy stories, fiction about adults abusing children, including a baby.
Andrew Green, defending, said it was accepted that Boswell's offences were "abhorrent and horrific" and that the material was sickening.
"It is clear that for quite some time, he has harboured a deeply distorted pattern of thinking," he said.
Boswell, was ordered to register as a sex offender for life.
He was also banned from working with children and from accessing the internet to download or distribute indecent images.

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Given that this man wrote illicite material and distributed it the chance of his reoffending is about 100% there should be no doubt, but thats our court system thinking the best of people or hoping any way.

Jail for pregnant woman stabbing

Elson was jailed in LondonA man who stabbed his pregnant ex-girlfriend has been jailed indefinitely

Jail for child sex abuse teacher

A former boarding school teacher has been jailed for 10 years and nine months after being convicted of 13 sexual offences against children.

Paul Couch, 61, of Wyndham Street West, Plymouth, was found guilty earlier in August of two counts of serious sexual assault and 11 of indecent assault.

US 200-year porn sentence stands

While it might seem harsh in one point. The man was guilty and to tell you the truth I don't care to have him or any other Paedophile walking around my streets. Prisons are for reforming people, sometimes they must be for housing them until they die. He might become reformed in the prison, but by the sound in the article he had no remorse. This man has probably abused children, if not he encouraged the abuse. Either way it is appropriate.
After all we are commanded to protect the innocent

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Arizona has the toughest child abuse laws in the US. The US Supreme Court has refused to hear an appeal by a high school teacher from Arizona sentenced to 200 years in jail for possessing child pornography.
Morton Berger had claimed the sentence was so disproportionate to his crime it breached the constitution.
If the 52-year-old had been tried in a federal court or lived elsewhere he would have received a lighter sentence.
But he was living in Arizona when he was caught with thousands of images of child abuse on his computer.

Stark differences
The state has the nation's toughest laws on child abuse and exploitation.
Indeed, the prosecutor had asked for a 340-year sentence but the trial judge imposed the minimum of 10 years for each of 20 images - to be served consecutively for a total of 200 years without the possibility of probation, early release or pardon.
Mr Berger's lawyers asked the Supreme Court to hear an appeal.
They argued the sentence was wildly disproportionate - much longer than that for rape or even second degree murder and claimed it amounted to cruel and unusual punishment.
The state of Arizona argued each image of child abuse was a separate crime so the sentences had to run consecutively.
The Supreme Court refused to hear the appeal and gave no reason but the case has highlighted stark differences in sentencing policy across the US.

Child Porn & "Every Child a wanted child"

I find it ironic that the argument for abortion is "every Child a wanted child. So we will kill the ones we don't want has fallen on its face when we look at the mass abuse of children today in our world. People trafficking is horrendous, even worse, it seems is some of the Child abuse/Porn that distributed around the globe. The US which is one of the major advocates for the “every Child a Wanted Child” is also the largest provider at 51 % of the total.

“In a recent report, the organisation said that 51% of child abuse content was
traced back to the US and 20% to Russia. This compared with less than 1% of
potentially illegal content that appeared to be hosted in Britain.”

It should be no surprise that the child is disregarded as insignificant. Now that Children are discarded, and only those that are “wanted” are allowed to live, the next step will be to remove those people from society who are not wanted. Sounds something like Nazi Germany.
I think I will start to do research on politicians who obstruct laws that would increase the prosecution of Child Porn/Abuse including Abortion. I guess I will have to start with Nancy Pelosi as she seems to want to suppress anyone who will disagree with here.

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According to investigators in Austria, some 2,360 suspects from 77 countries downloaded horrific images of young children being sexually abused and raped.
They were believed to have been shot in Eastern Europe and uploaded to the web in Britain, posted on a Russian website hosted by an Austrian company.
Investigators say that in a 24-hour period they recorded more than 8,000 hits on the site from computer address in countries from America to Algeria and Macedonia to Mexico.
Some of the material was free but the Russian site was charging $89 (68 euros, £45) for access for a "members' only" section.
Routine
Experts have described this type of criminal activity as fairly routine. They say there has been a growth in technologically sophisticated pay-per-view sites. The sites are difficult to detect and close down because of they way in which they move around the world.

Foetal cells 'to treat strokes'

By Pallab Ghosh BBC News, science correspondent A UK company is applying for permission to transplant stem cells made from human foetal tissue into the brains of stroke patients.
Guildford-based ReNeuron has told the BBC it has convincing lab evidence that the cells could potentially regenerate brain cells damaged by a stroke.
It has applied to the US Food and Drug Administration to carry out human trials on 12 stroke patients.
However, opponents have said it is a "sick proposal".
We can provide a renewable source of cells in order to treat a large patient population Dr Eric Miljan
The ReNeuron team have successfully extracted stem cells from the developing brain area of a 12 week old aborted foetus.
These cells have begun to specialise into brain cells and have the ability to rapidly generate brain tissue.
According to Dr Eric Miljan, Reneuron's head of stem cell discovery, when the foetal stem cells were injected into the brains of rats in which a stroke had been induced their movement recovered.
Tests showed that blood flow and brain activity were restored in the damaged area.
Dr Miljan said: "We're very excited. There have been a battery of tests. There have been a series of animal safety experiments. And they work.
" We feel that we are ready to go into patient trials."
The company is to submit its research results to the FDA, and if the human trial is approved it could begin early next year.

Safety concerns
But the regulators will want to be satisfied that the trials will be safe and hold out a realistic chance of doing some good.
In particular they will want to look closely at a crucial part of the treatment which involves genetically modifying the foetal brain cells.
The researchers incorporate a gene called c-myc which is associated with normal cell division.
However, when there are abnormalities with cells the gene can be involved in the uncontrollable replication of cells and lead to cancer.
ReNeuron say they have safely harnessed this property by modifying this gene to make its action fully controllable.
They add the modified version of the gene so that it can cause a small number of foetal stem cells to multiply when a chemical is added. In effect, this provides a biochemical way of photocopying the cells.
The replication stops once the chemical is taken away.
Ethics case
Michael Hunt, ReNeuron's CEO, said: "We have proven with reams of experimental data that the system is fully controllable.
It's a sick proposal. It involves cannibalising an unborn child John Smeeton Society for the Protection of Unborn Children
"We have also shown that the cells we grow using this system show absolutely no abnormalities throughout the growth process.
"It is very important for us to be able to demonstrate these safety characteristics before moving our therapy forward into stroke patients."
Reneuron's idea is to produce unlimited quantities of stem cells from just one foetal tissue sample.
According to Dr Miljan, this makes their treatment potentially commercially viable and ethically more acceptable.
"We only take one single piece of tissue and for that we can grow up enough cells to potentially treat all eligible patients.
"And we never have to go back to that tissue again. We can provide a renewable source of cells in order to treat a large patient population."
Holy grail
Joe Corner, of the UK's stroke Association, said the research was "very interesting".
He said: "The Holy grail for stroke research has been to find a way of regenerating the damaged part of the brain.
"Until now its been thought that the damage was irreversible.
"Most treatments and therapies have relied on teaching the patient to use different parts of their brain through physiotherapy.
"But we are beginning to see some promising signs in potential stem cell treatments and ReNeuron's approach does seem very exciting."
However, John Smeaton, director of the Society for the Protection of Unborn Children, was completely opposed to the research.
He said: "It's a sick proposal. It involves cannibalising an unborn child.
"It's an unethical in every way - killing one member of the human race to help another. We are totally opposed to this."

Now what using an aborted child as is unacceptanble, as there is no need for continued cell recovery a child that misscaried seems that it could work as well, with little ethical dilemas as that would be a donation like a heart donation.

Is it the parents or the states responsiblity for the child

Babies born at or before 22 weeks should not be resuscitated or given intensive care, a report says....However, research shows that many of these babies do not live very long, or go on to develop severe disability.
Earlier this month the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists said it wanted a discussion over whether "deliberate intervention" to cause death in severely disabled babies should be legalised.
But the report recommends the active ending of the life of newborn babies should not be allowed, no matter how serious their condition.

So the question Really about whois responsible for the child. In the 19th century there were private orphanage's to take care of the children that were not being taken care of by the parents and this was not viewed as the states role. In the 20th century he state took on this role and now we have the state as guardian of the child, this is OK accept now its saying that the state decides first and the parents are tertiary to the parents decisions. The state will always take into its decision economy and needs of the state and relegate the life of the person to a low priority. This is why they say

However, research shows that many of these babies do not live very
long, or go on to develop severe disability.

A rational person would say 1. isn't life worth it and who is to judge if one is worth living or not, if we are reduced to that that puts us in the same boat with the Nazi's who decided that millions of lives were not worth living 2. Some will grow to be perfectly "normal" is that not worth it.
With the advancement of technology comes a great responsabilty. It is far to easy to value one life over another when looking at a balance sheet, but children are not numbers

Teenage, not just murder

I find this one of those interesting and intensly sad markers. Maybe its because I have a son, but I don't think so.

Society has let this boy off, so as to let itself off, by saying its merely a phsycolgical disorder, not because there is anything wrong with what it is doing to promote child rearing. Its just accepted as the way things are not asking if there ae obviouse choices that are being made that lend itself to this crime.

Ultimately the problem lies not with the government, but with the church for not promoting christian values in society and abdicating that to the government.


Teenager admits schoolboy murder And A lot more


A 15-year-old boy has been detained at Her Majesty's Pleasure for murdering a boy who rebuffed his sexual advances.
Joe Geeling, 11, was beaten, repeatedly stabbed and dumped in a park in Bury, Greater Manchester, on 1 March 2006.

Michael Hamer, who was 14 at the time of the attack, pleaded guilty to murder at the start of his trial at Manchester Crown Court.

Hamer was told that he would serve a minimum of 12 years before being eligible for parole.

On 1 March a massive search was launched for Joe, a cystic fibrosis sufferer, after he failed to return home from school.

His body was found hidden under debris in a gulley in Whitehead Park the next day.

Mr Justice McCombe said Joe had done absolutely nothing to encourage Hamer's sexual advance, the rejection of which triggered the attack.


We submit he [Hamer] simply did not feel able to admit that his motive was a sexual one

Imposing a minimum tariff of 12 years, the judge said doctors had found that Hamer was suffering from an "adjustment disorder" at the time of the murder.

He also said the killing itself was not thought of in advance but triggered by Joe's rejection of the defendant's sexual advance.

Earlier Alistair Webster QC outlined the prosecution's case against Michael Hamer.

He told the court Joe was reported missing by his mother at 1724 GMT.

'Lured to house'

Mr Webster said Hamer had written Joe a letter - purportedly from the deputy head at his school - to lure him to his house.

The court was told a second letter found at Hamer's home showed a clear sexual interest in Joe by Hamer. A total of four drafts of the letter were found by police.

Hamer claimed Joe came to his house to charge his mobile phone, but this explanation did not "stand up to examination", Mr Webster said.

Parents 'agonising' wait

Joe was beaten repeatedly with a frying pan, which left him with multiple bruises to the head and a fractured eye socket, the court heard.

Hamer told police he had got the frying pan because Joe had been looking at a photograph of his dead step-brother, which he refused to put down.


But Mr Webster said Hamer's account "lacked credibility" because no photo was found.

Hamer then went and took two knives from the kitchen and stabbed Joe 16 times, puncturing his windpipe in two places and cutting a major artery.

Mr Webster told the court Joe was the victim of a "sustained and savage attack".

Although there was no evidence to indicate a sexual assault the evidence did not exclude one, he said.

After the attack, Hamer dragged Joe's body downstairs, put it in a wheelie bin and took the bin to Whitehead Park, where he hid it.

'A wind-up'

When he returned to the house he began cleaning Joe's blood and told his mother the stains on the carpet were caused by a leaking red pen.

Later, he admitted his responsibility for the death but told police he had set up the meeting with Joe as "a wind-up" - so Joe would go to meet him but no-one would be there.

But David Steer QC, mitigating for the defendant, said Hamer killed Joe after an "adolescent sexual approach" was rejected.

Mr Steer described Hamer as "maladapted" - an isolated and psychologically flawed teenager.

Hamer felt rejected and isolated, which was exacerbated because he never knew his older half-brother, Mark, who died from cancer and did not have much contact with his father. He had also been bullied at school.

"This previous background to the commission of the offence leads both psychologists to conclude he was a young man suffering from a abnormality of mind in the form of an adjustment disorder," Mr Steer added.

I've been asked specifically by him [Hamer] and his mother to express their sorrow and deep regret for what happened in this case

David Steer QC

Hamer told psychologists he lured Joe to his home to scare him and make the victim feel what it was like to be "isolated and scared" as he was when he was bullied.

But Mr Steer told the court: "We submit he simply did not feel able to admit that his motive was a sexual one. He found it easier to give these other accounts."

He said Hamer had only admitted the real reason for the murder in the last few days.

"He made a sexual advance towards Joe who responded to him as 'gay' and threatened to tell others about what he had tried to do," Mr Steer told the court.

"He then tragically responded in the way he did."

Mr Steer said: "I've been asked specifically by him and his mother to express their sorrow and deep regret for what happened in this case."

Eddie Robinson, headteacher of St Gabriel's Roman Catholic School in Bury, where Joe and his killer were pupils, said the school did all it could to ensure the care and safety of all its pupils.

"I'm confident that our policies and procedures are robust and any incidents of bullying are resolved quickly and effectively.

He added: "The outcome of today's proceedings should allow the school to begin to begin to work towards closure, and attempt to get back to some degree of normality."