Reformed thought vs PCUSA - The Gospel according to Oprah

• The Gospel according to Oprah
• Jesus, the Bible and Homosexuality

Now I don't think that Oprah is the Anti-Christ nor are the homosexual activist in the PCUSA, but I do think that they are an anti-Christ. These are advocating a different Gospel than the one that Jesus the Christ taught and died for.

They are advocating one in which you do it yourself, now many homosexuals truly feel attracted to people of their own gender, this is largely from their environment, but this is no different than my wife being attracted to another man. That is called normal, what becomes wrong is to act or dwell on those emotions. Homosexuals only sin when they act on their emotions.

Now Oprah is just plain old "do it your self religion" and the the homosexual is just make Christianity nothing. The interesting part of this situation is that the PCUSA publishing is advocating both. When reading the studies they clearly believe that both Oprah is a spiritual person upon which we should look to for theology(does that make here a minister of sorts - I guess she will have to cut out her liberal political advocacy, well they get away with it anyway) and the Homosexual agenda. Both are Trojans trying to change the way the church thinks clearly an indication of the situation of the PCUSA.

The homosexual study clearly says people are allowed to disagree, but then says

Likewise, historical documentation should be accepted and not debated. Rogers is a recognized scholar and has done painstaking research. ....Jack Rogers shares his personal journey as a Christian, scholar, and minister in the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.). While he did not seek to be involved in advocating ordination of people who are homosexual, through his experiences and study he has come to this position.

So what they are saying really is disagree all you want but "we have the evidence that we are right and you can't challenge its accuracy" Pretty week arguments and what it really means is that they know in the back of their minds that they are biased(even though like all good liberals they think they are not) and try to suppress any real debate. What it really means is they don't like the idea of SIN, and the penalty for it.


So what do they mean when they say
Building on the Reformed tradition
I think they mean ripping the whole darn thing out and starting from a different road. A yellow brick road that leads to neverland, I think.

Maybe what they mean is we don't think that the reformers meant what you think it meant, what they really meant was.........
Now thats a truly relevant way to understand a modern day PCUSA. Maybe the PC means Politically Correct.

Church 'in need of women priests'

The Church of England would struggle in the future without women priests, researchers claim.

English Church Census figures show that half of priests ordained in recent years were women. There were 1,262 serving women priests in 2002.

University of Manchester researchers say that, without women priests, pulpits would become "depopulated". Is that necessarily a bad thing if the church might be teaching wrongly

The findings follow the Archbishop of Canterbury's suggestion that they had failed to transform the church. On the contrary I believe that the whole issue of women as prelates in the church have led many to expect homosexuals, by its very nature many woman who are motivated to become part of the establishment are coming with an agenda to change the situation and are also likely to be on the liberal side. Without the woman the CofE would be decidedly evangelical in nature!

Rowan Williams, in an interview with the Catholic Herald newspaper earlier this month, said he did not think women priests - first ordained in 1994 - had "transformed or renewed the Church in spectacular ways" nor had they "corrupted or ruined it". They corrupted or ruined it, NO but they and Mr Williams himself have given it a good try, but this is nothing that the King of Kings did not allow from the beginning of time.

Census findings

The University of Manchester's David Voas said: "Close to a quarter of male parish priests are 60 or older and their average age is 54.

"Without women, the pulpits would become as depopulated as the pews in the years to come." That will be fine, a church is not a building it is anywhere where Gods people meet. In fact the depopulation might be a good thing. The British church is in a great condition now, by and large where older generations thought they were followers of Christ because they were baptized and went to the church maybe on easter now, no one is under that delusion.

It was not surprising women clergy seemed not to have made an impact because the Church was "far from being an equal opportunity employer", he added. The "True" church is not one of hierarchy, glory and appearance, it is one of service. The Archbishop is supposed to be the chief servant, though one could not tell that.

"Women are not yet allowed to become bishops and they are far more likely to be 'second class' clergy. again this is not about class nd recognition from man but from God.

"Most of the men who became priests in 2005 went into paid 'stipendiary' ministry, while most of the women are in voluntary posts."

Other denominations were also more likely to favour male ministers over their female counterparts, he said.

The census found there were no women at all in churches which had congregations of 330 or more on a typical Sunday. Could it be that these were all Evangelical?

"Well over half of women ministers in all denominations serve in rural areas with very few found in the flagship city centre churches," Mr Voas said.

"The larger the church, the more likely it is that a man will be put in charge."

I find this an interesting time for the Anglican communion, it would appear that they did not have any problem with women leading a church, contrary to the bible.